Brand strategist Malena Putnam recently asked me to be on her podcast to discuss something I at least try to know a lot about (money) and another thing we should strive to be better at (motivation.) I also discuss meeting Tony Robbins and share some favorite books. If that sounds interesting to you, here it is! Thanks for listening!

David McSwain is an Oklahoma bank consultant and president of McSwain Consulting providing loan risk management solutions, bank loan review services, and bank consulting services to community banks in Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas.